CourseForum and ProjectForum

February 04, 2010

Version 6.5.1

We've released a small update to ProjectForum and CourseForum 6.5. This fixes the previously mentioned bug where the new attachment popup would show up in the wrong place on the page in IE when a page was scrolled. It also fixes a display bug with empty list elements in Firefox.

Finally, we've made some changes to the WYSIWYG wiki editor to improve the handling of content pasted from outside sources, in particular Microsoft Word. You may have noticed in the past that Word includes a lot of extra HTML tags that aren't helpful in ProjectForum; these should now be stripped out. Please let us know if you have any issues with pasting content into ProjectForum after applying this update.

January 25, 2010

Minor Problem with Attachment Menus on IE

We've been made aware of a small problem with the new version that affects IE users. Note that the popup menu on attachments was changed in 6.5 so that it requires a right-click to activate (rather than being activated automatically by hovering the mouse over it).

The problem is that on IE, if you have an attachment down the page so that you have to scroll to see it, and right click on the attachment, you won't see the popup menu. It is actually there but in the wrong place - scroll back up to the top of the page and you'll see it there. Essentially IE is putting the menu in the right place, but ignoring the fact that the page is scrolled.

We'll get this fixed up for the next patch release, but just wanted to let people know now...

January 20, 2010

Version 6.5 Released

We've just released version 6.4 of both ProjectForum and CourseForum, which can be obtained as usual from our website. Hosted sites have also been updated.

This release packs a lot of changes into it, particularly on the content management and user interface sides, including a few popular requests. Visit our changes page to get the full scoop on what we've changed.

More info and downloads: ProjectForum and CourseForum.

January 05, 2010

What is the Point of a Wiki?

Another useful article by Pancho Castano. Good as an introduction to people who think that emailing Microsoft Word documents around is necessarily the best way to work.

November 30, 2009

New Beta: Version 6.5b1.

We've just released a new beta, the first of CourseForum and ProjectForum 6.5. Changes in this release are also described on that page.

As you'll see, there are a fair number of changes, both in terms of user interfaces and feature improvements that will benefit everyone, but also some "under the sheets" changes that will help people who administer a wiki site, develop custom themes, etc.

Please download the beta, try it out for yourself, and let us know if you like what you see (or not!). And of course, any problems or other questions, don't hesitate to get in touch. We're looking forward to hearing your comments. Thanks!

October 26, 2009

Important Update.

While we're busy crunching away on the next major CourseForum and ProjectForum releases (version 6.5), we've just put out a small update to the existing 6.4 version that fixes a potentially nasty problem.

In a nutshell, there is an interaction between the editor we use and very recent versions of browsers using the "Webkit" web browser engine; this includes Apple's Safari and Google's Chrome browsers, among others. In rare circumstances, it was possible that when viewing the editing page, there could be glitches in the page (e.g. missing buttons) or even small pieces of HTML code randomly inserted into the content that you were editing, which if you saved the changes would result in the extra code being part of the page.

This could happen whether you were using the WYSIWYG editor or not, was more likely to occur in very long pages than shorter ones, can be quickly cured by just refreshing the page, and is, I stress, a fairly rare phenomenon that could affect only very recent Webkit-based browsers. This bug will not cause any loss of your page content.

For the technically curious, this appeared to be a result of a peculiar timing error between the very recent versions of the Webkit engine and the Javascript initialization code for the TinyMCE editor we use for our WYSIWYG editing.

Obviously, nobody wants to see pages not displayed right or weird HTML tags magically inserted into pages. We'd therefore recommend updating to 6.4.2, which contains our solution to this problem. As usual, this update is available for download at projectforum.com, and users of our hosting service have already been updated.

Please contact us with any questions or concerns.

October 19, 2009

Attention Safari and Chrome Users

There appears to be an issue in newer versions of Webkit (the browser engine behind Safari and Chrome) where in rare circumstances loading the editor page will insert some bits of HTML code into the editing area that shouldn't be there.

If anyone has been experiencing this problem, please get in touch, as we'd like your help testing out a possible solution to the problem.

September 25, 2009

More usage examples on Quality Management

Following up two earlier articles, our friends at Geometrica have posted more details about exactly how they are using ProjectForum.

It provides some details on what some of their pages look like, how they've set up navigation in their wiki, and how they've taken advantage of themes and custom links to give them the look and features they needed to make it easy for everyone to work with their wiki.

June 24, 2009

Enterprise Wiki Software and Pricing

As anyone knows who has spent a bit of time looking at different wiki software packages, there are a lot of choices out there. They range from personal wikis all the way up to systems for large enterprises.

Stewart Madder, an enterprise wiki consultant and author of the excellent Future Changes site, has just published his Enterprise Wiki Software Guide, which covers a handful of the popular enterprise-level wiki tools (not alas, including ProjectForum, but that's okay).

His intro discusses some of the features typically found in these products (multiple workspaces, permissions, notifications, templates, etc.), and then goes through a bit of info on each of the tools he included.

As I said, even ignoring features, there's a pretty wide range of software options, some hosted only, some downloaded, some both, and targeting a pretty wide range of different audiences. One way to get a good sense of where they're aiming is with their pricing. These range anywhere from completely free and open source to "we won't tell you our pricing straight off, but will send a sales guy to see how much we can squeeze out of you".

Sometimes, you get the same company offering free or open source and mega-$$$ versions of their software, with the idea to get you onboard easily so you'll think about upgrading, but also to offer a solution to an audience that's outside their target market. Nothing wrong with that.. we have a free version as well, for the same reasons.

If you're curious and don't have the time to trawl through each vendor sites, here's a highly selective summary of some of the minimum pricing options for their downloadable options, based only on what's on their website. As you'll see, most enterprise-targeted products price on a per-user basis, which is normal for larger companies.

Centerstage, a Documentum add on, doesn't list pricing. But if you're already using Documentum...

Confluence (which is a very nice product) starts at $800 for 25 users, $2200 for 100 users.

EditMe is hosted-only and a bit less Enterprisey, which is reflected in their pricing ($10-$50/month, unlimited users).

GroupSwim is also hosted only, minimum $150/month for up to 15 users.

Mac OS X Server bundles its own wiki, no extra charge.

MindTouch provides their wiki open source, offers some free packages, but saves the best for their enterprise customers; no pricing on site.

PBWorks (formerly PBWiki which you may have heard of), is hosted-only, starting at $1200/year for 5 users; again, free options are available.

SamePage (hosted or downloaded) starts at $100/month for 20 users hosted, no pricing for downloaded version.

SocialText, another really good company, offer open source, hosted and downloaded, etc.; downloaded (or appliance) starts at $1000 + $5/user (if you want the multiple workspace option)

Swirrl, like EditMe, is not targeted so much at the Enterprise, and is hosted only ($10-$180/month, unlimited users).

ThoughtFarmer pricing starts at about $10,000 for 100 users.

Traction TeamPage starts at $3750 for up to 25 users.

(Undoubtedly some of the rabid open source types are tearing their hair out that anyone would pay for wiki software at all since there are so many free choices, or having a coronary at some of the higher end options.)

Not that initial price should be the overriding concern of course. There are also maintenance costs, install/admin time, training time... plus of course whether each package suits your needs in the first place, regardless of cost!

But ignoring all that... how does ProjectForum fit in? It's got a comparable feature set to many of those products, so is on par that way, offers either hosted or downloaded options, and I'll try not to say anything about how easy it is to set up! (Oops..).

Our main audience is what I'd consider small-medium groups, perhaps supporting people in a few different departments in an organization, or a more far-flung group of loosely joined collaborators. Our standard pricing for the downloaded version reflects the type of pricing those groups are more comfortable with, namely per-group, unlimited users, starting at $249 for one group (with other free/cheap options).

ProjectForum gets used in larger organizations too, sometimes just with the standard license but a larger number of groups. But we also have an enterprise licensing model, offering the per-user (unlimited workspaces) pricing that larger organizations commonly expect. Minimum there is 150 users for $1000 (though I'll admit we've been known to have our arm twisted a bit by smaller organizations).

So again, while pricing is just one component, it is a valuable indicator when trying to decide if a product is really aimed at people like you, or a totally different audience. Too low a price tells you something, just like too high a price does.

Again, thanks to Stewart for posting the article. If people really want to get the most out of their collaboration tools, you owe it to yourself to at least subscribe to his blog.

June 21, 2009

Website update.

We've done a bit of a redesign on our website. The new design is a bit more modern, simpler, and we hope easier to use. We've also added a Search area in the header of every page. You'll find the new design both on our main site and on this blog.

Speaking of new designs, you'll notice also that our online ordering pages have had a facelift as well. Kagi, our e-commerce partner, has put a lot of effort into redesigning the shopping experience, again to make things easier to use.

Any problems please let us know.